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 FeelingNotGoodEnough (original poster new member #80435) posted at 6:24 AM on Saturday, July 8th, 2023

I found out everything my partner was doing behind my back in 2020. He had multiple EA's, was on dating sites telling women he wanted nudes and to hookup, joined adultery forums and was asking how to have successful affairs. None of it was physical beyond purchasing nudes because none of the women wanted to do more than that.


He did trickle truth until November 2021. I had to find out everything,he never willingly told me anything.

After I found out April 2020, we both set boundaries in order to keep being together, and one of them was no apps, social media, or anything where he could secretly message women unless he was transparent and showed me everything including giving access to his accounts. But He continued to make secret accounts and would add and delete the apps which I would keep finding out about on and off from April 2020 to November 1st 2021. He says he didn't message anyone again but I don't know if I can believe him.

November 1st 2021, I was going through a scare for my health, possible cancer and had to have a procedure to have precancerous cells removed. I was freaking out, we have young kids. I needed to use his phone, I found yet another app he was using where I had specifically asked him not to make an account since only by having an account could you talk to other people. He lied and said he didn't make an account and that morning of my procedure I found out he had THREE different accounts for that app and had been talking to other people.
We had a huge argument that morning of November 1st 2021 and I was done. I told him after my procedure I couldn't do it anymore.

He begged me not to end the relationship, started therapy, put an accountability app on his phone to show me that he wasn't going to do anything else. He also went and got evaluated for mental illness and started medication. All while doing this I told him I may still end the relationship because at that point I no longer had any hope.

Fast forward to now. Since November 1st 2021 with proof/transparency from an app showing everything he does, he hasn't done anything else. Therapy and medication have helped. He focused on the issues inside himself that were making him choose to cross boundaries and worked on them. He's a way better person and partner. However, he's terrible at talking about feelings and emotions that come up about the hurt I was put through and communicating about the past, and helping build my self esteem and my feeling of stability in our relationship which after everything we went through I feel is absolutely necessary for my healing.

For example, last night I again asked him why he chose me as a partner in the beginning of our relationship. He had to choose between me and someone else back then. She was a lot younger than us. Back then I didn't even know how much he had debated about us both on who to date since he made it seem like after he had met me he had already gave up on being with her. His reply was the same one he always gives, "She was too young and you were the better choice for my kids since you were already a mom." Over the years of our relationship everytime I ask why he chose me over her, this is the answer I get. Which makes me feel I wasn't chosen as someone he wanted to be with but for someone who met his needs, a safe option until he found who he really wanted to be with. And since she was one of the women he had a long EA with during our relationship I feel used for what I could give him as a partner and feel he kept cheating on me with people he actually had more feelings for.

Tonight we got to talk again after last night's argument over this. He finally was able to say more things about why he chose me and what he loves about me. But it hurts it took him a whole day to come up with things especially since this has been something brought up often. He says he thought of reasons why he wanted me as a partner right away but cannot seem to tell me them. That due to how he was raised and beat as a kid for having emotions he cannot seem to tell me how he feels, that there seems to be a mental block. He has been working on this in therapy, he has a lot of trauma.

However, even though I'm aware of his trauma and empathize, I'm so sick of trying to communicate about things and trying to repair the damaged parts of our relationship with him. He shuts down, or unintentionally says something that hurts me, or doesn't say anything when I need to hear it. He gets frustrated and angry, defensive over not being able to communicate about emotions.

I'm conflicted, do I keep reaching out to try to repair the damage done in our relationship and trying to ask him for the things I need to hear so I can heal, when I know he has trauma making it incredibly hard for him to say how he feels? Or do I just try to accept the past and how he is now and give up on communicating about the past and hearing the things I need to hear?

It's hard when I want to hear how he feels about me aka the things he loves about me, why we are in a relationship, why he chose me as a partner, what made him fall in love with me, I want to talk about what happened in the past and how we can prevent it, I need to communicate in order to feel things won't happen again. When things trigger a hurt I need to be able to tell him it hurts and for him to be compassionate, empathize, and reassure instead of getting defensive. I'm tempted to just stop reaching out. A huge part of me wants to just let it hurt inside and figure it out on my own, and concentrate on how he is now, and not expect anything. I wonder if this is what some people have had to do to stay in a relationship after multiple infidelities or if the only hope at having a lasting relationship is repairing it.

Idk sorry for the long ramble, I just hurt tonight. Helps to vent.

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Dreamdaisy ( member #67729) posted at 11:31 AM on Saturday, July 8th, 2023

Hi FeelingNotGoodEnough,

I am new to this forum and by no means an expert on these matters.

I wanted to reply, because I realise how important that is when others are hurting, This forum has been my lifesaver the last two days and I have learnt a lot from just reading here And the comforting support of others.

Your situation is very similar to the one I am dealing with, although the cheating has not been to the same level as you have experienced with your partner, the emotional connection from him is very much the same issue as you are experiencing. He treats me very much like house mate in general and cannot deal with making the emotional connection that is needed to sustain a relationship. Although he is kind and generous in may other ways, that is not enough. On top of that, I have to deal with what I believe is a personality disorder, manipulation, gaslighting etc...all a recipie for creating emotional distress to the other partner. So I can certainly empathize and understand you on that one.

Some of the best advice I got here yesterday, was to focus on your own well being, I never stopped for a minute to ever realise I was neglegting myself and putting all my energy into a relationship that is very much one sided..that was a revelation to me, can we make these partners deal with their problems and fix them, no we can't! and it seems the more we push for that, the worse it gets...when you are the one that always has to start a discussion, always the one who tries to make things better...it does not work

I am sorry to hear of your health scare, I wish you well with that. Maybe time to put your health and wellbeing as a priorty right now

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InkHulk ( member #80400) posted at 11:12 PM on Saturday, July 8th, 2023

OP, I’m sorry for your pain. Sadly, the story you tell is all too similar to countless others here. But the good news about that is there is immense experience and wisdom in dealing with the disaster that is infidelity. And all the poor coping mechanisms that seem to precede it. So I’m sorry you had to find us, but glad you did. I hope voicing your story was cathartic, I know it has been for me.

People are more important than the relationships they are in.

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 12:19 AM on Sunday, July 9th, 2023

Welcome to SI, and sorry that you had to find us. In the JFO (Just Found Out) forum, there are some pinned posts at the top. They have some really good information. The Healing Library has a lot of great information, including the list of acronyms we use.

Did you have any OF (individual counseling) to help you recover? I hope your SO (wayward partner) is still working on his issues in IC. If he's no longer acting out, then maybe you may benefit from MC. The point of MC is to work on your relationship and communication.

I understand the frustration regarding communication with APs. My XWH could talk to AP for hours but wouldn't speak with me. He also didn't keep his hands to himself, so we D. I wasn't willing to stay in a relationship with multiple infidelities.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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Fof9303 ( member #70433) posted at 1:48 AM on Tuesday, July 11th, 2023

I am sorry that you feel so conflicted about how to handle your feelings and reconciliation. There is no easy fix and one size doesn't fit all. I was very good at compartmentalizing and then it would all come out at once. Men usually have a hard time communicating and I know my husband of course did not want to discuss the affair because of his shame and regret. I also revisited therapy months down the road when things felt like they were not progressing more or stalling. I would definitely consider therapy for both of you. Do the two of you belong to a church? Have you thought about getting involved. Do the good things to help strengthen your marriage. I hope your heart heals quickly. God Bless.

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