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 number4 (original poster member #62204) posted at 1:15 AM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Whether you're a royal family follower or not, a couple of videos from this weekend are absolutely entertaining... the ones of Prince Louis in particular.

Anyone else see them?

The first one showcasing his personality is the one of the flypast during the Queen's Jubilee celebration. The look on his face, on the balcony, standing next to the queen, with hands over his ears is hilarious. Kate did her part by cracking up at his reaction.

The second one is of him giving smack to his mom, who tries to redirect his antics... him giving her the brush off as they sat in the stands.

I mean, maybe they should have left him at home, but how many times will this wee little tyke get to celebrate a Queen's Jubilee? I'm glad he was included.

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 3:35 AM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

He was just being the little boy that he is. I loved it! laugh Shows money and royalty can't buy perfection. Caroline has thrown a couple of tantrums lately too. So they are just normal kids.

I wish Lillibet and Archie had the chance to see their cousins. I'm not all into royalty watching but I think Harry and Meagan are being treated badly. They have some really cute kids.

Prince Louis is really cute and his antics made me smile. I have to admit the highlight of the jubilee for me was seeing and hearing Rod Stewart sing SWEET CAROLINE.

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Catwoman ( member #1330) posted at 2:18 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Just curious--why do you think Harry and Meghan are being treated badly? It was their choice to forego royal duties and live in the US. I do find all the Secret Squirrel stuff regarding their children to be quite odd. You don't see any of the other grandchildren doing that with their families.

I thought Prince Louis was charming. Let's remember--he just turned four.

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 3:30 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

I think Harry's choice to give up his titles is just that - his choice. He doesn't expect, it seems, to be treated in the same manner as he was previously. I feel Diana would be horrified that her two sons aren't on real speaking terms. I think the booing was in bad taste. Even royals make mistakes just like commoners. After all, look at that horrible woman who took Diana's place. And she's treated like 'royalty.'

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 number4 (original poster member #62204) posted at 8:26 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Yes, Catwoman, he was absolutely charming!

Yea, a lot of people are attacking Harry and Meghan. I suspect they are projecting their own fantasies of what it would be like to be a member of the Royal Family, and can't imagine why anyone would turn away from it.

I do think William and Kate are probably doing a great job raising their kids. They are much more down to earth with them, and hands on, than their own parents were, or Elizabeth and Phillip were with Charles and his siblings.

I think it's admirable that Harry still has such an endearing relationship with the Queen. I suspect it's because she was probably there for him and William more after Diana died, than their dad was.

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 8:42 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

I really enjoyed seeing the royal family reaction to the Paddington Bear video with the queen. Apparently that was kept secret, so the reactions were real. (The skit was cute… great play on what is in her little purse she always carries.)

I pretty much ignore the Harry/Meagan stuff… I find them very boring.

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 10:00 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Isn't it amazing that Prince William had an affair but all was forgiven .... but because Harry didn't marry someone of their choice, he's out? I love Kate and I think she's a great mother and her kids are adorable. I find William a little stuff shirt, like his Dad, who also had an affair. Harry and Meaghan are doing 'good things' with their money here in the USA. Meaghan even showed up down in Texas to pay her respects to the victims of the school shooting. Kate would do that too if she were here as she seems very compassionate.

Count me as one who is disappointed that Camilla gets to wear a crown at all. She should be kitchen help, in my opinion. smile

I guess that's because I was a real fan of Diana.

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 10:02 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

I will say I envy their patriotism and flag waving for their country. We seem to have lost A lot of that here in the good ole' USA.

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 number4 (original poster member #62204) posted at 10:12 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Wait... William has had an affair? When? Is this confirmed? There's so much paparazzi involved in their lives, and so much rumor. I don't assume something unless it's from a reputable news source. That family has dealt with so many vicious rumors.

I know Charles was cheating, but William? Is this ultimately why Harry is so done with his family?

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grubs ( member #77165) posted at 10:41 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Snip. Didn't mean to break the rules.

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 11:47 PM on Tuesday, June 7th, 2022

Me too. Sorry!

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 number4 (original poster member #62204) posted at 3:41 AM on Wednesday, June 8th, 2022

OK, back to talking about young Louis. He was just adorable. I hope at some point Kate gives an interview with someone who asks her about his behavior during the Jubilee. I think she'd crack up.

I, too, hope that all the cousins had a chance to meet, but I suspect it didn't happen. It'll be interesting when Harry's book comes out - to read (I won't buy it, will just wait for the headlines after it's released) exactly who it was in the Royal Family who ostracized Meghan. I don't think Meghan is close to her half siblings, so George, Charlotte and Louis would be the only cousins of Archie and Lilibet.

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zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 5:27 AM on Wednesday, June 8th, 2022

I wish people would show as much grace to all parents of a toddler displaying less than perfect behavior.

I think Kate handled the situation with patience and class.

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OwningItNow ( member #52288) posted at 6:17 AM on Wednesday, June 8th, 2022

I was often embarrassed when my kids misbehaved in public which happened all the time (on the spectrum, ADHD), so I felt Kate's stress in the photos I saw! Louis' behavior was cute though, and she handled it well. The weekend must have been mostly boring for the kids with all the formal events. They did as well as can be expected.

As far as the royal family goes--geeze, so much bad behavior over the years! Wasn't Phillip a known cheater, as well? The Crown suggests he was, so it must be true. laugh And Andrew?! Yikes. He's been pulled from royal duties, too. NOBODY should be speaking to him.

Idk, you'd think Charles would be full of love and understanding for Harry after he himself went through a very public divorce from Harry's mother--who he never wanted to marry in the first place, then he watched the boys lose that beloved mother which must have been so painful for his sons, and finally his own begging and pleading to marry the divorced love of his life and OW, the Cruella de Vil of the family? I just woulda thought Charles would go through all that and develop a Live and Let Live, carpe diem philosophy. Except nope, it doesn't seem so. He's still judgy.

But me, I'm wishing them all well on their chosen path with their chosen people at this point. (I'm sure they've been waiting around for my blessing. Y'all can go be happy now! laugh )

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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 6:41 AM on Wednesday, June 8th, 2022

I watched the celebration and I thought it was great. When Louis thumbed his nose at his Mum, I laughed out loud. Such normal behavior for a 4 year old and she seemed to take it in stride. At one point Louis' grandfather Charles had him on HIS lap to try to settle him down. It was funny and he is such a cute little boy. And Caroline was even trying to corral him at one point, playing big sister.

I watched because I'm such a Rod Stewart and Elton John fan. It was a great celebration and uplifting to watch.

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 3:22 AM on Thursday, June 9th, 2022

You think Camilla should be kitchen help???????????

I’m pretty sure the kitchen staff have higher standards than that!!!!

Don’t you just love the name "Lilibet???

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Carissima ( member #66330) posted at 3:34 AM on Thursday, June 9th, 2022

It always strikes me as strange that nobody makes any of these comments about Diana, who had multiple affairs and broke up at least one marriage.
As for Harry,I think people forget he's his generation's Andrew. I'm not talking about character, I'm talking about his position in the family as a whole, he simply stopped being as important the minute William had children. Also like Andrew his status would further diminish the older the children get and as the focus shifts to them.
I don't think he was treated badly, he's no longer a working royal and was treated accordingly, the same as the rest of his cousins and extended family.
I think all the children behaved well over the event - from the little I saw.

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grubs ( member #77165) posted at 3:30 PM on Thursday, June 9th, 2022

As for Harry,I think people forget he's his generation's Andrew. I'm not talking about character, I'm talking about his position in the family as a whole, he simply stopped being as important the minute William had children. Also like Andrew his status would further diminish the older the children get and as the focus shifts to them.

The spare heir always gets the shaft. Not just Andrew, but Princess Margaret struggled in that role. Not only is the heir the parents golden child but that of the entire commonwealth. I think the queen saw what it did to Margaret and Andrew and tried to shield Harry from the damage.
There's a lot of constraints imposed by being part of the royal family. You have no anonmity at all and you are expected to turn the other cheek no matter what others are saying. The children of the monarch grow up being groomed for their place in life. That they don't get to freely choose what they do and who they do it with. Thier potiential spouses do not. Camilla was likely Charles first choice, but apparently was unwilling to take on that role. Diana was caught up in the romance and really didn't understand what she was getting in to. Can't go deeper into that dynamic in this forum.
Kate seems to been fully aware of what she was getting herself into and has very much reformed some of the damage done to the royal image done by the previous generation. Megan... She hasn't done so well. Being an American certainly didn't help as she had no clue about the stiff upper lip expections of the brits. I'm not surprised that William and others in the royal family where worried about Harry's pick. She came from a broken family and had no concept of demur behavior expected of the royals being the brash america star. I'm actually surprised that they even tried to integrate Megan as a working royal. It was unlikely that a working compromise could be reached. It's not much of a surprise that this marriage ended up blowing up on the royals.
I see a lot of myself in my first marriage in Harry. Angst that the family didn't fully support my choice of spouse. I wasn't about to admit that they may have been right. I still don't openly even though we divorced. It did drive my family and I apart like what happened to Harry and his. They'll settle into an uneasy truce at some point. I really think that Harry/Megan aren't going to survive long term. The isolation from family and friends that Megan is comfortable with isn't going to work long term with Harry. Just like me he'll end up back with his family. The relationship will be damaged but he'll be accepted back.

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 4:36 PM on Thursday, June 9th, 2022

Perhaps being an American, and being from a broken home had something to do with the issues regarding Megan, but I don’t think her race can be ignored.

That hits close to home and is repulsive to me.

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